Getting through and handing in my first packet

Boy has it been a busy, crazy and stressful last three weeks since I left Goddard. Definitely didn’t go as planned but does life ever really go as we plan it to? A couple of days ago I found the time to listen to another broadcast by Debbie Edwards on Meta-Visionaries Radio while driving in the car to and from work, which is now an hour drive each way so I had plenty of time to listen to the whole 2 hour show. I kept my promise and took notes on the broadcast I said I would listen to in my last post: Telekinesis & Human Energy Fields w/ Debbie and Marcus, which originally took place on March 11th 2013. The ride was not so fun but the broadcast was actually quite intriguing and I found myself zoning out as I delved deeper and deeper into the conversation Debbie was having with a man named Marcus Leader. I found the conversation completely relatable and even almost cried multiple times throughout the show. Before I begin to give you a short description about the broadcast and what I learned, here is a little background information about Marcus, which Debbie so kindly posted under the broadcast:

  Marcus is an Astronomer, a private researcher in human consciousness for the Monroe Institute ( TMI ), and a Toltec shaman trained for eight years in a one on one apprenticeship. He has spent over three decades researching parapsychology and the paranormal world from the logical and analytical perspective of a scientist mixed with the enlightened awareness of a Toltec shaman. He also hosts a weekly radio show where he discusses much of his experiences and research called The Shaman’s Brew on

The broadcast starts with Debbie diving right into the topic of telekinesis which she explained to be the concept of moving objects with your mind or being able to effect physical surroundings with your own nonphysical energy field. She also stated that to a certain extent we are all telekinesis it just depends on how much we are as an individual. Marcus chimed in and said that there are many different types of telekinesis or psycho-kinesis like recurrence psycho-kinesis which is where you get things moving around in your house like poltergeist, or things that happen spontaneously that you don’t have control over Then there is psycho-kinesis or telekinesis which you actually do move objects. He talked about a friend of his with the last named Geller, and he was able to move and bend things with his mind.

When Geller first came over from Israeli, the government was doing tests on him through Stanford University to see what he could do and to there surprise, he was able to move objects with his mind in laboratory conditions. Marcus went on to state that what he understands in his research and shamanic training, is that telekinesis is triggered by the mind but you are not actually using your energy, your personal power to move an object but instead you are using it to trigger conditions that move the object. He said, scientists have found that the mass, size or weight of an object, does not make a difference for someone who can actually move an object with their mind. They can move anything from a feather to a car; it’s not dependent on the weight of the object. The current theory is that our human energy system acts like a trigger and we are able to effect the energy that is around an object that we are going to move, because there is an enormous amount of energy all around us at all times. Our minds seem to have the ability to trigger a release of energy. Marcus went on to state that to get an idea of how much energy there is, if you hold your hands about two feet apart, there is enough space between your hand to boil all the oceans in the world. You do not feel this because it is in another dimension.  Telekinetics trigger the release of that energy and formulates what they want the energy to do with their human intention and then program the energy. Even though they usually do not know exactly what they are doing, they just know how to do it.

Debbie then piped up that the human body radiates multiple fields of energy that interact with innumerable fields of energy outside of the body itself. She brought up that it is not just the mental aspect of telekinesis but the emotional aspect as well and in her own experiments she found that the most productive and biggest impact that can be made kinetically comes from an emotional surcharge to where it combines that heart-brain connection. It is like the heart leads the ship and as long as the intention is parallel to the emotional component, immediately telekinetic moments happen. Unfortunately, for a lot of people from what she has seen, experience it without intention, and therefore it becomes a bit messy and unexplained like electronics going “wonky” or doors latching open and closed.  Different types of metal tend to shift and move and glass is one of the least resistant to energy surcharges and a lot of the time it will break.

She then told a quick story about a couple she new that had an experience with glass breaking and explained that the glass broke due to a build up of intention that was caused by a stress involving lack of communication and frustration over a certain problem with a family member. She finds that when someone has a buildup of electromagnetic current through his or her intention, especially of wanting to communicate, creates a blockage but as soon as we distract ourselves, our intention goes elsewhere and the former intention ends up releasing. The collection of the electromagnetic frequency just bursts outward, which ends up effecting whatever surrounding we are in at that time. The man in her story basically had been harboring this stress for a while but for a split second, his focus changed and he experienced a moment of pleasure and joy and released this build up of energy into the room around him. The glass door was not able to withstand this charge and therefore shattered right in front of him.

Debbie then brought up the law of attraction and mentioned that it ties in quite nicely with what she mentioned above. When we are focused on the intention exclusively, it places the intention on hold. As soon as we put our intentions to other things, that original intention is released and it is then sent out into the universe only to then be able to return to us in the intended form. She has noticed over the course of many years, that the more and more people focus on a particular outcome, the longer it seems to take to manifest. Like in Zen principles and the law of non-attachment. If we apply that to the law of attraction we find more instant manifestation than we do delayed manifestation.

She then switched gears a little to tell another quick story and to explain that she has found that anger and frustration seem to be the most potent to our immediate surroundings. Also if people are really sick or extremely ill, which is another component, and they are taking a lot of medication, the medication will alter their frequency, vibrations and their electromagnetic current. What then happens is anything that is supposed to naturally happen inside the body is pushed to the outer energy field, which therefore can create more telekinetic results.

Marcus then took over to explain that there are a mixture of energy fields that we radiate around us, not juts the aura, and it can be described as an egg shape energy field around us that follows the contours of our nervous system. That energy field extends from a foot to three feet out on a normal person, and it is not just a glowing ball of energy. Because of the various habits that humans have, the energy tends to build up on the inside of our egg, our outer bubble, and basically builds a plaque on the inside of the egg wall. The more plaque, the less you can do as far as radiating energy out and under certain conditions, that plaque can be broken. If it brakes up and dissolves, that energy is going to go somewhere else. The plaque can be broken up in changes of brain frequency induced by certain medication and when that happens, it can release all that energy that was built up in the plaque.

He then explains that through his shamanic trainings, he has learned of ways to manipulate that plaque through certain moves that are very similar to tai chi called magical tassis (? I might be spelling that wrong) and they are designed to stir up energy to start braking that plaque up because the more your break the plaque up the more energy you have to work with. There are certain meditation practices for this as well, where you start to close down your thoughts and do something called “stopping the world”, which is where you stop thinking about everything. The goal is to take that internal chatter that is constantly going inside our heads and you quiet it down.  Once you quiet that down, you can start to work with your other energy fields.

This brought Debbie and Marcus into somewhat of a new direction and they began to talk about telekinesis through energy outburst and poltergeist experiences surrounding young children and puberty. Debbie explained that when women enter menstruation, they begin to dive into puberty and it changes something within their body, within their energy system, to where poltergeist can happen at that time, as well as telekinesis out bursts. With also, who are going through the process of menopause, it creates some kind of shift or some kind of surcharge, that causes multiple different types of poltergeist, including things moving through walls, such as apportation where a physical object is found in another room and there is no other way for it to have gotten in there except through another physical object such as the wall or the door. Debbie then admits that that is all she really knows about the topic but that it would be interesting to see what kind of psychic ability these children and women have had during these chemical changes that were taking place within their body.

Marcus then brings up a case that highlights the negative side of this in a particular story of the Bell Witch Case, which took place during the 1800s. I’m not going to go into grave detail about this story but what I will say is the story is basically surrounding extreme dangerous cases of poltergeist that may have been all traced back to a child that was being physically molested and through bent up emotions she either caused the poltergeist situations unconsciously or acted like a beacon and attracted negative entities that fed off of her raw emotions and caused major disturbances in the house ultimately killing her father.

At this point I am going to take a break and write more on the broadcast at a later date because all of the information I have just shared with you above, is only a little over a half hour out of the two hour broadcast. So what I thought was going to be a short description turned out to be just a little off… I probably will break this particular broadcast up into four, thirty-minute parts. I feel that a lot of the information in this particular broadcast is very important to my studies and I would like to take the time to document the whole show in a concise, clear matter. If you would like to listen to the broadcast on your own the link is:

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Until Part 2 of this broadcast,

Sweet Ease. 🙂


2 thoughts on “Getting through and handing in my first packet

  1. Geller would likely be Uri Geller. He claimed to bend spoons, and made the TV circuit many years ago, around the mid to late 70’s, if I recall correctly.

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